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<F Db7>
<S William Smith>
<G M>
<A 77>
<O RETIRED FARMWORKER>
<C DERBYSHIRE>
<V SUTTON-ON-THE-HILL>
<D 00-05-56>
<I SE>
<L CN S54>
<T 8:50>
<SE What ‘s the worst hedge you ‘ve ever done? SE>
<WS Well,
I doesn’t know.
I ‘ve had some bad ones and good ones. WS>
<OS That one up at uh +… OS>
<WS That up at Vernon’s Hook? WS>
<OS What was that?
A +… OS>
<WS You can’t cut +…
Not a thorn edge,
I mean uh,
you can cut (a) thorn hedge like,
anytime,
whereas you can’t cut a privet hedge.
Not till May. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Privet and holly. WS>
<SE Hmm.
oh,
holly ‘s # different,,
is it? SE>
<WS Yes. WS>
<SE Aye.
Oh. SE>
<WS That ‘s when I cut that. WS>
<SE Yes.
I see.
And how do you set about it like?
How do [/] how do [\] you start? SE>
<WS Well,
uh we make a road into it. WS>
<SE Aye. SE>
<WS See,
if there ‘s big bare like at one end,
a big bush,
we ‘ll say,
you cut it all off and then they +…
# Summat farther on,
like,
that form. WS>
<SE Oh,
I see.
Aye. SE>
||
<WS Leave one [/] one [\] side of your hedge smooth,
and (the) brush all at (the) other side. WS>
<SE I see. SE>
<WS If there ‘s a ditch see,
where you ‘re pleating,
it ‘s alright.
Because you want (to) leave (a) bit (of) this for (to) be cleaned out. WS>
<SE Hmm.
Hmm. SE>
<WS And I shook it off,
you see,
into the grass side. WS>
<SE I see. SE>
||
<WS Oh aye.
I liked it. WS.
<SE You did. SE>
<WS I did. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS The first hedge as I cut,
it was down here.
Just across +…
About xxx half-way afore you hit Barton Hall. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS I cut it for this big farm in (the) village here.
His uh [/] his [\] like labourer left,
and I took it on. WS>
<SE I see.
Hmm. SE>
<WS And that ‘s a good many years ago. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
||
<WS See,
I used (to) be wi(th) horses. WS>
<SE Oh,
I see. SE>
<WS Oh aye.
I ‘ve done all sorts,
Cowmanning and horse working and hedge cutting. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Ditching and [*thatching*] and # all like that.
And supping. WS>
<SE Aye. SE>
||
<WS Uh if it ‘d been drained afore,
see,
you could find (th)em. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS (A)bout eight yards apart,
as a rule.
Some of (th)em. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS And if you can find one xxx,
then uh stride it,
about eight yards,
you might catch another.
But they ‘re mean.
If you ‘ll get rods down it,
you might possibly catch just where another comes in,
see? WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Then you would [*stoppen*] and [*diggen*] and see whether be right.
Then xxx with your eight yards. WS>
<SE I see. SE>
<WS That ‘s how I used to do it. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
||
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS I ‘ve seen (th)em,
like when they ‘ve just started cubbing,
# in that xxx up at Vernon’s Hook,
# you could see the s- [/] the [\] smoke coming from when they caught one.
Just warm,
you know. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Hot.
They start you know,
and just # [/] just [\] dry stuff,
coming nice a bit.
Cooler. WS>
<SE Aye. SE>
<WS When (the) harvest is got in see, WS>
<SE Yes. SE>
||
<WS We just uh planted a new cover.
# And we called it after (the) daughter,
Beryl’s gorse.
Her name was Beryl. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Aye.
We called it after her.
see,
there wasna no earth there,
but I made (th)em some. WS>
<SE Hmm.
Hmm. SE>
<WS Badgers and foxes and all xxx use (th)em now. WS>
<SE Aye? SE>
<WS Aye. WS>
<SE Hmm.
(Of) course,
badgers are quite different,,
aren’t they? SE>
<WS Oh aye.
They ‘re vicious things.
You know. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS xxx foxing,
after that. WS>
<SE Have you ever had anything to do with badgers like? SE>
<WS Oh,
I ‘ve seen (th)em kill many a lot. WS>
<SE Aye. SE>
<WS Hounds ‘ll go mad after (th)em,
you know. WS>
<SE Aye. SE>
<WS Oh,
they kick xxx xxx and all . WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS It ‘s a pity you know,
all that lot of hounds after one thing like that. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
||
<SE How do they tell where it is,
if it ‘s [/] if it ‘s [\] in the earth for getting it out? SE>
<WS Well +/. WS>
<SE Digging and that? SE>
<WS Well,
they ‘d uh +…
the # terrier ‘d tell (th)em. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS It ‘ll just see how far it can +…
Well,
they wouldna get +…
they wouldna dig it in some,
(be)cause they couldn’ta ,
some on (th)em.
[!= coughs] WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS We were once +…
got a terrier dog # belonging to the Major up at Vernon’s Hook.
# They got +…
Her got in some fox hurst,
and they +…
uh he used (to) take her (to) work wi(th) him every day,
and uh # her used to go round along (the) deer wire and +…
when xxx coming up from xxx xxx.
And he got +…
her got in these b- +…
holes,
# Well,
they got xxx among the xxx xxx.
They tried (to) get her out.
# And uh # he looked after +…
He wouldn’t [/] he wouldn’t [\] allow (th)em (to) go for no dinner,
they fetched it him.
Aye.
He thought the world of that dog,
you know. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS So,
they [*gen*] it up.
# And one of the chaps says,
Pritchard,
he says,
+” We ‘ll just try here. “+
he says.
And he got one bit of a grass out on it,
there the dog were.
And he ‘d got a little whisky bottle in his pocket,
and (as) soon as he collared it,
he hugged it,
and [*gen*] it some whisky and carried it up home.
[!= laughs] WS>
<SE Aye. SE>
<WS [!= laughs]
Aye.
He did think something of that dog. WS>
<SE Yeah.
Aye.
(Of) course they did +…
Well,
they still do,
you think something about a favourite dog,,
don’t you? SE>
<WS Oh aye. WS>
<SE Hmm.
Do they ever lose dogs then?
With that job? SE>
<WS Terriers? WS>
<SE Aye. SE>
<WS Oh aye.
Sometimes they get in more trouble,
you know. WS>
<SE Aye. SE>
<WS Aye.
And they have to destroy (th)em. WS>
<SE Hmm.
I meant,
do they ever lose (th)em under the ground and not +… SE>
<WS Oh no.
Oh no. WS>
<SE [!= coughs] SE>
<WS They get them out.
[!= sniffs] WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS We lost one up at Vernon’s Hook,
we didna know what it +…
where it got to.
Mind you it were +…
That was only a young pup,
you know.
Just # getting useful.
He ‘d two on (th)em come.
I don’t know where they got (th)em from,
but # one were rough haired and # [/] and [\] another smooth coated.
And it went one day,
and they couldna find it.
Well I +…
We lead it to that,
it got into these fox hursts and got killed you know. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Aye.
# That ‘s what we lead it to. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Perhaps somebody had picked it up and # took it. WS>
<SE Yeah.
Hmm. SE>
<WS (Be)cause they got +…
Used to get strayed off +…
straying off,
like,
now,
then. WS>
<WS xxx xxx xxx xxx. WS>
<SE Yeah.
Hmm.
And # when they were +…
when they ‘re breeding hounds like,
is it a very tricky business # getting the right sort? SE>
<WS No,
they get # [/] they get [\] (th)em at +…
They pick one out,
a certain +…
They +…
Well,
they notice,
see,
when they ‘re # hunting. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Which is the best.
And work the best.
And (the) same wi(th) a dog and a bitch. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Well,
if they can get them two,
say,
they ‘ll breed with them. WS>
<SE Oh,
I see. SE>
<WS Aye. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS And they let them go to any farmer as ‘ll # [/] ‘ll [\] have one. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Then they get their show up,
see,
and show them.
Them as gets first prize. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS With these puppies. WS>
<SE Hmm.
And do they pay the farmer then or +… SE>
<WS No,
he +…
They [*given*] him what they think fit for xxx,
see.
[!= coughs]
What they think fit,
see? WS>
<SE I see.
Hmm.
And # when they are hunting,
# have they control over their dogs very much?
Or do they just +… SE>
<WS By God they have. WS>
<SE They have. SE>
<WS They have.
Yes,
no matter where her goes,
I bet you (a) shilling they know,,
wouldn’t they? WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS And they shouts,
the huntsmen. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS They see her on the scent and off. WS>
<SE Hmm.
(It) must be a fine sight,
when they ‘re all +… SE>
<WS [!= laughs]
Oh aye.
They go mad. WS>
<SE Aye. SE>
<WS [!= laughs]
By God.
Well,
I ‘ve seen one like ‘ll lead you,
Mrs Farquharr,
always chased about beside me.
Him and all.
On (the) farm,
where I used (to) work.
They ‘re looking after the xxx now,
see? WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS By God,
they fetched a fox out of this top cover here.
Well,
I didn’t know where he come [: came] from,
but oh Lord,
she passed me like forked lightning.
Full blooming gallop.
It were about (the) first on the go. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Her were always a mad one when they were riding.
When there was a time,
you know,
her # mother lives down at Foston here. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS In a big house. WS>
<SE Hmm. SE>
<WS Her used to be a good one for hunting,
you know. WS>
<SE Aye.
Hmm. SE>
Transcription by Juhani Klemola and Mark Jones, 1999 See http://digital.library.leeds.ac.uk/381/1/LSE_1999_pp17-30_Klemola_Jones_article.pdf and http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/ach-allc.99/proceedings/scott.html
