Emboldened writing is the part of the clip audible in the ‘Getting out and About’ story.


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<S NK> 

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<NK I ‘ll tell you one about uh when I was coming down the +… 

# out to Lees Hall Quarry. NK> 

<SE Aye. SE> 

<NK We had a cartful stones on. 

# To the Poplars. 

# and the horse tumbled behind us. 

# I ‘ve had horses down, 

but I never had anything like this afore. 

When he raised the f- +… 

that was through his # foreleg. 

# The shaft was through there, 

you see? 

Now then, 

# there ‘s three men come [: came], 

you understand, 

to have a +… 

# to help us to get the horse up. 


he banged up. 

That was all right, 

but his leg was up a height here. 


I got his saddle off, 

and I got his breeching off, 

[!= coughs] 

I got his hame sticks off, 

and I think I had a brain wave. 

Because # I thought, 

+” Well, 

this horse, 


he ‘s maybe never been broken in with a plain bridle. “+ 

# Well, 

they ‘re frightened as a rule. 

# So I said to old Herdman the gaffer # and Charlie Madison and Snowball # and Charlie Steel  


# No, 

Charlie +… 

# no, 

not Charlie Steel, 

# So uh # I says, 

[!= coughs] 

+” Tighten the brake on, 

put some stones afront of the wheel. “+ 

I didn’t want the cart to gan [: go] over that side because it was gonna gan [: go] about fifty foot xxxto the bottom, 

you know. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK # I clicked his blinders up and he jumped clean out. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK You see? 


that was the worst thing ever I had. 

There ‘s two on [: of] us had a hold of his leg and tried to pull it up, 

but we couldn’t put the weight on him. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK You see, 

he had that much weight on this other leg, 

you know, 

the weight of the horse’s body. 

I think that was the worse do at ever I had with that. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK And I ‘ll tell you another one about when I went to Hindleysteel. 

# This was in my father’s day, 

and that ‘s a long time since. 

It ‘s fifty three year since he died. 

I had to go, 

and I was supposed to come in for the seven o’clock train at night, 

for a wedding # with Willy Little and Annie uh ## Annie Armstrong. 



well one +… 

I drove them back, 

I was the first man that ever went across the fell, 

what they call the Old Run to Hindleysteel, 

# afore the road was made. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK And I went. 

# Carrick wouldn’t go with his # horses. 

He stopped in Cawburn, 

and they walked to them. 


# [!= coughs] 

# when I throwed [: threw] all them out again, 

they wouldn’t come away that night on the Saturday night. 


my father was a sportsman, 

you know, 

same as what I am, 

on a bit of fun, 

like. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK So, 

what they call the Hal- xxx Hopealone, 

that ‘s xxx farm for the Hindleysteel. 

# They would # come in on a Monday night, 

# oh, 

to have a race. 

# Well, 

I had a terrible good mare. 

Grand one, 

belong to my father, 

you know. 

She was a grand one. 

He bought her at the Dean Row, 

Haydon Bridge. 


Old John lent me a saddle and a bridle, 

# and I won every race there was. 

# So when I come [: came] in on the Monday night, 

you know, 

to Haltwhistle, 


come [: came] home to the stable, 

he said, 

+” Where ‘s thou been, 

boy? “+ 

+” # Oh, “+ 

I says, 

+” I been at Hindleysteel. “+ 

+” Aye, 

but +… “+ 

he says, 

+” it ‘s a long time after Saturday night. “+ 

I says, 

+” I know, 

but I couldn’t fetch them when they wouldn’t come. “+ 

I says, 

+” You have no # call to # grumble. “+ 

I says, 

+” I won the Northumberland plate, 

the Cumberland plate, “+ 

and I says, 

+” I won the derby, 

# and all things. “+ 

He says, 

+” Has thou galloped that mare? “+ 

I says, 

+” I have that. 

And  I won every race. “+ 

Now that was all there was said. 

There wasn’t a one could touch her. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK No, 

she was corned and hard fed, 

you know, 

full of go. 

I once come [: came] in and xxx to xxx and all, 

if it was at a wedding. 

# And I happened to take my brother with us. 

I had a young horse and an old one, 

riding double. 

# And this old horse, 

on this side, 

he was alright, 

you know, 

and there ‘s no breeching on a double harness, 

do you see, 

as a rule. 

# Oh well, 

they were xxx xxx. 

But I had my younger brother sitting on this side of me. 

# Now then, 

he uh +… 

# When they were getting away +… 

And I had six sitting in behind, 

you know, 

you see, 

getting away, 

gathering speed, 

# I said, 

+” Joh- xxx +… 

Jump off ! “+ 

So he jumped off and just +… 

The young horse was just walking like as if it was alright, 

you know, 

but it was gaining speed, 

and this old one was down. 

He was knocking the feet from the young one, 

does thou see? 

He had +… 

His head was in the collar. 

He come out of  xxx of # uh Keswick. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK # Oh, 

I get them all to get out. 

So they get out and walked on. 


I says, 

+” You needn’t be a bit frightened. “+ 

I ‘d just bought that boss off Whitfield & Howe at Carlisle and it wasn’t right. 

I had it in to the farthest notch, 

and still it wasn’t right. 

So they sent a man from Carlisle to just put it # in the fire, 

and uh give it a twist back. 

And it was alright then, 

after that, 

do you see? NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK But I think that was the nighest thing I ever had to a right smash up. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK Oh yes, 

it was the nearest, 

I ‘m certain it was. NK> 


<NK So he landed uh # for some manure. 

# And I said, 

+” The horse may be funny with thee, 

mind. “+ 

I said, 

+” That ‘s the horse that dropped down dead. “+ NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK Mind, 

they are funny. “+ 

+” No xxx, 

the horse funny? “+ 

he says, 

+” I ‘ll easy manage the horse. “+ 

I says, 

+” Alright then. “+ 

I says, 

+” Gan [: go] in to the hemmel yon and get it out. “+ 

I said, 

+” that ‘s where I ‘s feeding the st- +… 

the calves. “+ 

I says, 

+” The best manure I have. 

# Just delve [: dig] it out with a hay spade. “+ NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK So he delved [: dug] it out with a hay spade, 

you know. 

And then I says, 

+” Put some weight onto him. 

He may carry plenty of weight. “+ 

+” # Well, 

alright. “+ 

He ‘s away about an hour, 

or an hour and a quarter. 

And I says to the wife, 

I says, 

+” Hey, 

Polly come here! 

# Listen to the horse yelling. “+ 

We could hear him right # from the Herding Hill right on to Shield Hill Road. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK And when he come [: came] into the yard, 

I ‘ll guarantee he was as white as a [/] he was as white as a [\] ghost, 

my brother. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK He was two year older than me, 

you know. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK And he says uh # [/] he says [\], 

+” that ‘s the biggest fool ever I drove in my life. “+ 

He says, 

+” I met a wagon load of hay gan [: going] out to the jerry for the jerry horses, 

for the quarry horses, 

# the jerry stables. “+ 

And # he says, 

+” He very near went into Miller’s Cleugh for me. “+ NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK Well, 

He get him home, 

and we could hear him nickering and yelling that horse. 

xxx he come [: came] into the yard and saw me it was finished. 

Now do you know what did that? 

# I drive with the reins there. 

# And if I ‘ve occasion to gan anywhere xxx gan [: going] a bit faster xxx xxx quietly over him. 

You see? 

Now he does that, 

and he knew it wasn’t me. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK +” By, “+  

he says, 

+” Never more will I drive that beast. “+ 

[!= laughs] 

I says, 

+” I telled [: told] thee, 

I ‘s telled thee thou wasn’t to drive like that or he would know. “+ 

If I lent him to anybody in the town here, 

he did the same thing with them, 

man. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK Just the same. 

# He knew exactly when I was there, 

and you would never hear another murmur off that horse after uh I was there. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK But I had to be there. 

By God, 

he was a funny one. 

I always remember when the cow picked calf, 

at Herding Hill. 


I had to fetch him in to Haltwhistle to walk him to quiet him down myself. 

# I tried to put him into spike harrow. 

A spike uh an inch and a quarter that way on, 

and three quarters the tother way, 

so it was reversible, 

do you see? 

# To +… 

# Just to harrow some ground to quiet him. 

To give him a bit of work. 


# I get him back xxx xxx xxx xxx, 

they couldn’t hank them on. 

# They couldn’t get them hanked on. 

He was just around me all roads. 

# And he was alright after [/] after [\] he went into the wagon and saw the thing. 

Now that cow had picked calf and given an awfull funny bellow, 

and that ‘s what did it. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK That ‘s what did it with that horse that day. NK> 

<SE Hmm. 

What had she done? SE> 

<NK Eh? NK> 

<SE What had she done? SE> 

<NK Pick +… 


pick calved. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK Lost her calf, 

you know. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK # I get the pick calvingout there, 

Oh I had a rough do with it at the farm. 

I had pick calving for # three year. 

Every calf I had was dead ones, 

bar the uh heifers. 

The heifers on the fell never picked, 

but the cows did pick. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK And some said uh, 

+” Oh, 

bury a calf in the b- +… 

byre groop [/] byre groop [\]. “+ 

And all this sort of thing. 

I did naught of the kind. 

I get +… 

I did get some capsules, 

the xxx, 

# of Bristol, 

but I ‘ll not forget the first time I put them in. 

I guarantee I had no more than I have in my pipe xxx no more than what would fill my pipe head in. 

I put it into that cow and, 

why man, 

when I come [: came] back xxx three hours after, 

here ‘s the wife still raking the cow’s back to keep her from putting her bag-body down. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK What, 

it was murder. 

I would rather let the cow die. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK xxx. 

# Oh, 

you get some experience out of these places, 

there ‘s no doubt about that. 

# But as for uh +… 

# The horses was my pride, 

you know. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 

<NK Oh, 

they were mine. 


I was born to be a horseman, 

there ‘s no bother about that. 

I would have been a jockey, 

you know, 

if my father and my mother had let me go, 

but she wouldn’t let me gan [: go]. 

He had # he had # he ‘d written to Armstrong, 

you know. NK> 

<SE Hmm. SE> 


Transcription by Juhani Klemola and Mark Jones, 1999 ​See http://digital.library.leeds.ac.uk/381/1/LSE_1999_pp17-30_Klemola_Jones_article.pdf and http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/ach-allc.99/proceedings/scott.html